This is a discussion on Taurus G2C within the Pistols & Revolvers forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; LGS has G2C for $210. Have heard against Taurus for customer service and quality. Have also seen many reviews and youtube videos about the pistol ...
Taurus renamed the PT111 Millennium G2 as the G2C (for “compact”), then dumped the PT709 Slim and created a single-stack variant of the G2 dubbed the G2S, for “slim.” For those wondering, the name is the only thing that’s different. Some might accuse Taurus of crossing PT111 G2 out and writing G2C in crayon, and that’s exactly what happened. The thing about the Taurus G2c which will cause problems for some shooters is the pistol’s double-action trigger and its very long pull. According to Taurus press materials, the G2c has a “striker-fire, double-action trigger system that includes restrike capability.” To me, that description is redundant.
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August 19th, 2018, 03:42 AM | #1 |
Location: Ellijay GA | Taurus G2C LGS has G2C for $210. Have heard against Taurus for customer service and quality. Have also seen many reviews and youtube videos about the pistol stating it is a very good pistol. For the price, a steal. I sure am tempted. LGS store said they can barely keep them in stock they sell so fast. |
August 19th, 2018, 04:10 AM | #2 |
Location: US | I don't have the G2C, but do have 2 other Taurus guns. PT840 and 111G2. Trigger takes a little getting used to on both, but had never had issues with either. At that price I would buy one...might get me in trouble with the Mrs though Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk |
August 19th, 2018, 08:31 AM | #3 |
Posts: 11 | I've owned a G2C for a few months now and love it! Have never had an issue yet with it not wanting to feed or eject, accurate as my bi-focals allow me to be and has no problem with brass or alum. cases. What attracted me to this was the price at the LGS, $209, then I handled it and it was a great fit for me and the sights came up quickly and naturally, two things that I need to check off when buying a weapon, feel and sights. My gun seems to like the 124 grain bullet over the 115 grain which is fine with me and I keep the magazine loaded with Hornady American Gunner SD ammo. OWB holster and spare magazine pouch by Versacarry. |
August 19th, 2018, 09:27 AM | #4 |
Location: Paulden, Arizona | Sorry, but Ive never trusted the Taurus line for anything worthwhile to own. I understand there is a market for low cost firearms. I saw a Taurus revolver come apart once on the firing line at a CCW course. No Taurus guns are allowed in my home. |
August 19th, 2018, 09:53 AM | #5 |
Location: Central IL. | While every one is entitled to their own opinion, I consider my Taurus PT99 one of the best guns I own. I am as accurate with it as I am with my Glock 17-4 or my Ruger SR9c. I consider the fit and finish, the best gun I own. |
August 19th, 2018, 01:47 PM | #6 | |
Location: Ellijay GA |
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August 19th, 2018, 02:58 PM | #7 |
Location: Phoenix Az | I just recently purchased a G2C. I only have shot it a couple of times, so far so good, shoots as well as I can. If it ever needs service, I'll find out. Very handy gun. |
August 19th, 2018, 05:10 PM | #8 |
Location: Hoosierville, USA | I've owned three (3) Taurus handguns...all three (3) had issues that needed warranty repair. I owned two (2) PT-145's and parts would come loose and fall off while shooting it. I had to keep various tools around to keep it together while shooting it. The 850 DAO .38 revolver would 'jam' after the first round and I would have to take it apart to get the cylinder out to remove the remaining rounds. The first time I took it apart, it was filled with manufacturing metal bits, which I removed and cleaned it up good and thought it was 'handled'. The next few times, it jammed after every first round...and there was nothing to indicate as to 'why'! It got sent in for repairs, twice (2x), and continued to have the same issue. I finally traded it back in to the original ffl, who then re-sold it as a used revolver and that individual had the same issue and he sent it in. I never did hear the out come of his 'repair'... I got great 'deals' on them when I bought them... It all goes back to the age-old adage...'You get what you pay for!' There older stuff seems to be okay though...I have a Nickle 85 from 1990 that has performed flawlessly and with incredible accuracy! Last edited by Amishman44; August 19th, 2018 at 05:12 PM. |
August 20th, 2018, 10:59 AM | #9 |
Location: Ellijay GA | I pulled the trigger. Literally and figuratively. Bought the G2C and got free range time with the LGS. Shot 100 rounds and no issues at all. Felt great in my hands. Think it is the easiest disassembly of any pistol I have. Time will tell but off to a great start. |
August 21st, 2018, 04:01 AM | #10 |
Location: Virginia | I bought a Taurus 709 Slim not long ago and love it. Not sure if the G2c replaced it or not but if it's anything like the 709 it should be a keeper. The only issue I had with the 709 was the front sight got loose at my first firing session, tightened the screw and all has been well since. I did put Pearce grip extensions on both mags. If I didn't own the 709 I'd be looking hard at the G2c. I also own a FMK 9C1G2, a slightly bigger gun than the 709 but fits my hand, comfortable, and shoots great (with the 804 trigger installed). I'd like to see a G2C vs 709 Slim review to get a feel for the differences. |
August 21st, 2018, 06:28 AM | #11 |
Proud Virgina Rebel Location: Virginia Rebel-Don't tread on us on | I do not own a Taurus but boy do I hate Taurus bashers. Especially those that have never even owned one or had one that simply had a problem. Think Rugers are perfect? Pick out any firearm and then do a search on that particular gun and they all have them. I have a lot of friends at my club that have owned some for years and love them. It seems the G2 has had good results and at a low cost. Pocketguns and gear did a review and he is one guy I have always trusted. It is not the gun, I would choose, but for the Cost seems to be a good choice for many. Don't listen to the bashers. Most are Newbies anyway. Last edited by davevabch; August 21st, 2018 at 06:47 AM. |
August 21st, 2018, 06:34 AM | #12 | |
Location: In my backyard |
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August 21st, 2018, 06:49 AM | #13 | |
Proud Virgina Rebel Location: Virginia Rebel-Don't tread on us on |
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/chea...m-full-review/ |
August 21st, 2018, 09:58 AM | #14 | |
Location: Virginia |
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August 21st, 2018, 03:44 PM | #15 |
Location: Ellijay GA | Well someone at one time said they suck so they all suck right? Last edited by tallyman89; August 21st, 2018 at 04:20 PM. |
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.It all started with the PT111 Millenium Pro. That was the small double-stack Taurus pistol that held 12+1 and included two magazines. Features included double strike capability, adjustable rear sight and some really good ergonomics. It was a competitor in the small, double-stack 9mm market. It was a successful gun and I owned two of them. Then, Taurus upgraded a few features (“stippled” grip and did away with the keyed safety lock) and called it the PT-111 G2, or just-plain G2C.
Its slimmer cousin, the G2S, is very competitive in the. For a more complete history of the G2C, check out my article about that gun. A Bit Of HistoryIn order to understand more fully just how far Taurus has come in its quest to provide top-notch firearms at a decent price, a little history of the company is in order. I covered it in some detail in my review of the Taurus Spectrum.380. You can go for the company historyI recommend it.
I was surprised at some of the facts I turned up in my research – it makes for good reading. Taurus G2CThe company had earned, if that’s the right word, a reputation as a maker of lesser-quality guns, with not-so-stellar customer service. That was the case, sad to say, but then the company started to remake itself, in a better mold. A Turnaround?The G2C was a part of Taurus’s effort to re-boot its image in the shooting world. It started a few years ago when the company underwent a change of leadership. I have owned numerous Taurus products and have first-hand experience with their customer service, or lack thereof back then. It took 8 to 12 weeks to get a gun back that was sent in for any small repair, or for a minor part that was “restricted” and couldn’t be sent out.
It was almost impossible to get through on the phone to CS. That is slowly being turned around, even now.
(A hint: if you need to talk to Taurus Customer Service – utilize the chat feature on their website. In the past, I have sat on hold for an hour waiting to talk to a representative but after I discovered the chat button, I was “talking” with someone in under 5 minutes. WAY faster, at least when I did it). Under the new leadership team, the wait times both on the phone and at your doorstep for product returns has been cut, fairly significantly. Enter The Spectrum Taurus SpectrumThe.380 Spectrum, with its rubberized grip and slide panels and truly pocket-friendly shape, entered the picture as one of the first guns to be made here in the U.S.
This little gun is available in many color combinations and, if mine is any indication, is very reliable with a variety of ammunition. This was one of the first guns that I can remember Taurus making that was uniformly well received by the shooting press. More importantly, it gained in popularity with everyday shooters. I have a very good friend who knows guns inside and out and has been a shooter for well over 40 years. Mitch bought one and carries it-this is as good an endorsement as I could offer. If you knew him, you’d see why that’s a good recommendation of the gun.
And, he obviously isn’t the only shooter, old school or otherwise, to buy one it sells very well for Taurus. Another factor that is helping its popularity is the price.
The Spectrum can be purchased in many different shops and stores for well under $200, in most cases. But if it doesn’t go “bang” every time you pull the trigger, it could be free but nobody would want one. Mine has been very reliable, once I broke it in.
(Make doubly sure the firing pin channel is – they fill it with shipping from the factory). So the Spectrum has helped Taurus with its internal re-boot efforts. Now comes the G3 The G3After making the G2C, a 12-round pistol, the next logical step for Taurus was to make a slightly larger version. Usually gun makers start out with a larger pistol then come out with a “compact” version – Taurus did it the other way around.
The G3 is a four-inch barreled, 10-, 15- or 17-round 9mm. The one I received for testing from Taurus included one 15 and one 17 round magazine with finger extension.
They also make 10-rounders for restricted states, and show three separate models on their website – 10-round, 15-round and 17-round versions. Let me state right up front that the full-blown MSRP on the G3 as of this writing is exactly $345.23.Speaking of cost, the Taurus site describes this gun as coming in a matte black or extra-cost stainless slide finish but all I could find in the model descriptions on shows the matte black finish. I did not see any stainless slide guns. When the gun was first announced, the stainless slide was an extra-cost model by about $15. As of this writing, it has been removed from their site so I guess black is the only finish available now. At any rate, it’s a tough finish that should hold up well.As I describe the gun to you, it should become apparent what a good deal it is (especially considering that dealers will sell this thing for probably well under $300).
Let’s look at the gun’s vital statistics before going on. Specs Caliber9mm LugerCapacity10, 15, or 17 (with extended magazine)FinishMatte BlackGrip/FramePolymerFiring SystemSingle Action with Restrike CapabilityAction TypeStrikerSafetyManual and Trigger Safety, Striker BlockSights FrontFixed (White Dot)Sights RearDrift Adjustable (White Dots)Slide MaterialCarbon SteelSlide FinishMatte Black with a oxi-nitrocarburized finishOverall Length7.30″Overall Width1.25″Overall Height5.20″Barrel Length4.0″Recoil Spring Guide RodSteelWeight25 oz. (unloaded)Magazines Includedeither 2×10, 2×15, or 1×15 and 1×17Additional FeaturePicatinny Rail (MIL-STD 1913)Pros and ConsLet’s take a look, right up front, at what I discovered about the G3 when I shot my test sample.
Bear in mind, this is just my opinion your list could be very different. PROS. Ergonomically very pleasing. The grip was comfortable and fit my hand very well. The stippled areas really help anchor the gun when firing.
Frame indentations for your thumb and forefinger are prominent as well, with similar “divots” to allow easier access to the trigger. Takedown. If you’ve owned a Glock, you can take this pistol apart easily. Thumb Safety. For those of you who like thumb safeties, this one works well.
Rail. You have three slots to work with here, not just one. Extended Magazine. With the standard 15- and 17-round magazines plus the one in the chamber, you could have 33 rounds of ammo with you.
Buy a couple of extra 17-rounders for more security (check out to round it off). Sights. The three-dot, semi-fixed Novak-style sights are a plus. There are aftermarket night sights available if you desire them. A lot of shooters complained about the plastic, adjustable rear sight on the G2C so Taurus went with the rear steel sight we have here.
Forward slide serrations. OK, I’m reaching a bit here, but a lot of shooters like them for quick press-checks.
If you don’t like them, you don’t have to use them. CONS. Trigger. The trigger on my sample had a long take-up, and then once the free movement stopped, you had about a 6-7 pound pull to drop the striker. It was a bit gritty, with discernable creep. It made me wonder that, if it had been better, my groups would be tighter.
I DO, however, like the new trigger safety blade that Taurus is using – it is a bit wider, which makes it harder to pinch your trigger finger. Plus, the trigger itself is a little straighter than before.That’s the only negative I could find with this gun, and that could be easily addressed by dropping in a replacement trigger. In my opinion, if you only pay $299 or so for a gun, that leaves some to buy replacement parts with.If I had to rate the gun on a scale from 1 to 5 in the following areas, this is how it would fall out: Ergonomics/Comfort:Pointability:Sight Acquisition:Trigger:Follow-Up Shot Speed:Accuracy:Magazine Reliability:Concealability:(Regarding “Concealability”, this is a 4-inch barreled gun, so take that into account. It does hide well in a ).These are my subjective, informal judgements in the areas shown. The main point of all this is to show that this gun will likely be another pretty big success for Taurus and that they will sell these about as fast as they can make them. The Gun, Up Close & PersonalThis gun is designed to compete with the Glock-19-sized compacts out there.
I do believe that it will do nicely in the marketplace. Before going into more specifics about the gun, allow me to name one of my favorite features: the restrike capability.
This feature has become fairly common with Taurus pistols, at least most of them. My G2C has two distinct sears, one of which is for the restrike feature. The G3 has one sear but is still capable of firing a recalcitrant with a second or third pull of the trigger, much like a double-action revolver. Frame Slide SafetiesThere is the usual firing pin drop safety, as well as the bladed triggerThis blade is a bit different from previous Taurus trigger blades, along with the trigger. It seems to be a bit straighter than the one on my G2C and is a little wider but doesn’t take up quite as much room in the trigger as does the blade in the G2C.
The pull weight of the trigger is about 6 pounds and seems definitely smoother than previous Taurus triggers. This gun also has a traditional thumb safety, which you can use or choose not to. I think that, on a striker-fired gun, a thumb safety is sort of redundant but there are many who like the optionyou can use it or not. So, you should be good to go in terms of having a safe firearm. Other FeaturesHere are some photos I took of the gun that I was sent to review Pistol taken down.If you’ve ever disassembled a Glock, this will be nothing new, right down to the requisite trigger pull. Note the heavily-beveled muzzle. Slide release/thumb safetyAlso fairly new to Taurus pistolsa three-slot rail.
Most of the older guns had one or two at best. The GripGrip with molded-in stippling. This actually works to hold the gun in your handand that’s coming from a guy who thinks polymer grips ought to feel like 100-grit sandpaper.
I use actual stair step traction tape on some of my guns, so this grip is refreshing. Front strap Back strap SightsThe G3 uses the usual Taurus pistol sight set-upa white dot fixed front and a steel, drift-adjustable two-dot rear. The sight picture is good, although if the gun were mine I would add some bright red or orange nail polish to the front dotthe poor man’s night sight. The sights are very useful.It’s interesting to note that they did away with the fully-adjustable rear sight that the G2C boasts.
I’m a fan of adjustable rear sights, coming from a revolver background, but I also see the advantage of having a drift-adjustable rear given the mission of this gun. A self-defense weapon should have sights that are visible and rugged. The adjustable ones are great as you can adjust them to whatever load or reload you’re usingthat goes without sayingbut most shooters will shoot factory loads as opposed to reloads. Sights tend to be regulated for an average, common factory load windage/elevation setting – it’s with some reloads that we sometimes run into problems with the gun shooting way off the mark.
Now, I know this is a generality – I’ve had some factory loads that were pretty far off with the given fixed sight gun I was shooting. Conversely, are set to hit close to most factory loads’ point of aim. It’s just that, by and large, most factory 115-grain, 124-grain and 147-grain ammo will be close to where these sights look. I felt I needed to mention that because I’ve gotten questions from folks about regulating sights. It’s easy if there’s a screw adjustment – not so much if the sight is fixed or hard to drift. There’s where experimentation with different factory loads will help.
Some will be more likely to be accurate and hit in the center of the target than others. The main point of all this is that these G3 sights work and are adjusted pretty well for most factory loads.
If not, loosen the set screw on the steel rear sight and nudge it one way or the other. It is an improvement over the plastic sight I have on my G2C in terms of durability.Dovetailed rear sight – that makes it replaceable. Taurus G3 sight picture MagazinesThe gun ships with one each 15-round and 17-round magazineI think the mags are made by Mec-Gar in Italy, but would have to do some further checking to make sure. At any rate, they’re good mags. The yellow follower makes it easy to see when you’re empty, and the witness holes are ALL markeda feature that some other makers might want to emulate. No guessing here. The finger extension with the 17-round magazine is unobtrusive and fills the void very well.
I’ve seen some extenders that do not meet up with the frame and stick out while others simply don’t match the frame’s width. These magazines are very well made and both were reliable. It’s interesting to remember that Taurus was among the first pistol manufacturers to use a brightly-colored follower.
Now, it’s fairly common. It only makes sense – you can see how soon you’re going to run dry with just a glance at that bright yellow hunk of plastic. Uplula Not NeededIn terms of loading the magazines, I had little trouble inserting the cartridges by hand, without having to use my trusty Uplula magazine loader. If you’ve ever had trouble putting rounds in a magazine that was using a car suspension spring inside (or what seemed to be), then you will appreciate the relative ease with which cartridges can be inserted in the magazines. Please believe me here – buy an Uplula loader if you have a balky magazine for a gun you own. It is well worth the $29 or so that it costs.
It’s just that I didn’t have to use mine here. Shooting The G3This gun was fun to shoot. (I wanted to say “hoot to shoot”, but I thought that might be a bit over-the-top). From its decent trigger (some take-up, some creep but not a lot of either) to the ergonomic palm-swell-enhanced grip, the gun was a natural shooter. It points easily and holds on target when you do the “eyes closed-point pistol” test. The sights line up as if they had a homing device in them and the gun is very controllable in recoil.
Shooting ResultsI’ll stick in a couple of targets here, with some ballistic data to go with them. I enjoyed shooting the G3 – it was like shooting an enlarged G2C, but with a slightly wider trigger safety blade and a longer grip. I was not trying to set a bullseye record here – I was just seeing how close the sights were. Targets: (L) My handload: 124-grain Lee cast RN over 4.8 gr. Long Shot, 1049 fps; (R) WWB 115 grain, 1078 fps To Sum It All UpThe Taurus G3 is going to sell like hotcakes.
The gun gives the shooter a light, ergonomic pistol with good sights and a very decent trigger, all at a price that will most likely be below $300. This is a phenomenal bargain, especially so if you consider the lengths Taurus has gone to in order to upgrade its customer service and reputation.
The new Taurus guns that are coming out are earning very well-deserved high marks from reviewers and everyday shooters alike. There will always be a cadre of naysayers that will continue to make less-than-kind remarks about Taurus products – I was one of them a few years ago. But, with guns like the Spectrum, G2C, G3 and the just-announced Raging Hunter.357 revolver (American Hunter’s 2019 Hunting Handgun Of The Year), Taurus seems to be working hard to rebuild its less-than-stellar previous reputation.The G3 is one gun that will certainly help them in that quest. This gun is solid, decently accurate and well-built.
I can see it giving other similar guns a run for their money. Speaking of cost again, I just saw this gun for sale online for $249.99. You almost can’t buy a decent, 15-round 9mm for that amount. Add in the warranty, extra 17-round magazine and improved customer service and you have a winner. Check it out at your local shop and tell us what you think below. As always, stay safe and keep shooting!
Thanks Mike for another unbiased and honest review. If the gun sucked, YOU, would say so, yet we see another example of how Taurus has turned things around. I’ve owned multiple Taurus’s since the mid ’80’s and have always been impressed with affordability, reliability, and accuracy.
I can’t speak to CS as I’ve never needed it. My first was 9mm 92AF, followed with a.357 stainless revolver, followed by a.40 S&W PT 101 in stainless which I loved more than my Glock 26. The next is the G2C and may be added with this model based on your review. Hi Mike thanks for the reply. Ive owned a TON of guns in my life including XP 100 in 7mm bench rest, which I regret selling now, Everything from 22. To.45 and most rifles calibers—even had some matchlocks! Used to cast my own miniballs.
Ive played with the G3 more since my writing and am a huge fan. No, you are not going to win shooting matches with 1 inch patterns but WOW what a gun for the money! Honestly–its the best gun deal out there. I may pick up a couple more. I think the same way Read more ». Another detailed review, Mike.
My compliments. I just acquired the G3 a month ago via the Internet ($230 at the time from Kentucky Gun Company). To your point, I think the grip ergonomics are fine. The molded stippling is aggressive enough without be overly rough. Field stripping is easy.
Weight at 25 ounces is the same as the Walther Creed ($250 from CDNN). The G3 can easily be made a concealed carry weapon, despite the fact that it is larger than the G2C.
I think the Walther Creed’s trigger is better than that on the G3, but I really cannot Read more ». John, I agree with every point you made. The grip stippling, the sights and triggerthose are all right on.
I can see why you think the sights are smallI just didn’t mention that. And, thanks for pointing out that the guide rod is steelI omitted that, too.
I’m glad you like your 692 – that looks like a great carry gun. Lastly, you mentioned the Sar CM9 – I own its predecessor, the K2P and really like it. The “old-fashioned” DA/SA guns aren’t going away anytime soon. Great comments – thanks for writing! Mike, thanks for a great review. You are direct, concise with no fluff. I too am an owner of a G2C and I enjoy the heck out of it.
So far 1200 or so rounds through it and not a single major flub. Now, in comes the G3 which I am anticipating owning one and for sure will love shooting it given its DNA and shooting characteristics. My favorite feature is the second strike capability which surprisingly not a lot of polymer wonder nines have. Anyway, I am saving up for this new beauty.
Beauty indeed for us guys and Read more ». Excellent review! Taurus is making massive strides to the firearms industry. I bet they’ll surpass the competition with their fearless ambitious and innovation. Especially with their reputation growing every day. They’re listening to their customers. Just like ruger, sig and smith do.
You can tell because all of the contention points of the G2C are remedied on the G3. Specifically the steel guide rod, the trigger and safety system is upgraded, they added in the relief cuts to aide in removing a stuck magazine, the 1913 rail is extended, front slide serrations instead if the grooves. My only complaint as Read more ».
Ray, I think that, unless you are specifically looking to buy a Glock, the G3 will do just about everything that a Glock 19 will do. Plus, you have the advantage of a 17-round magazine right out of the box. If you are not “Glock-locked”, and just have to have one, there are alternatives out there and the G3 is one to look at. Too bad about your lawsI hope it all works out well for you. We sometimes take for granted our ability to buy guns more easily than those in other countries can. Thanks for writing!
Jennifer, the 908 is an alloy-framed, hammer-fired gun. I think the G3 might have a little bit more felt recoil due to its lighter weight (25 oz. Versus 30 for the 908) and poly frame, but the G3’s frame, being polymer, tends to flex a miniscule amount on firing and that helps tame recoil a bit. I don’t think you’d notice much more recoil. But only you can decide that. Is there a way for you to rent or borrow a G3 to try? It is a very popular gun – you might like it.
Another point – it would Read more ».